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Rational Powertrain Selection

This discussion will examine an engineering based approach to the selection of engine size, transmission, and ring & pinion ratio.  We will base this on a Cobra replica, but it is applicable to any car.

The examples will be based on optimizing a Cobra for street use.  The same procedure can be used for racing with a simple modification that I will discuss later.  All numbers given in the examples are corrected to a 2,400 lb car.  So, when you see numbers for a 3,200 lb C6 Corvette, the actual numbers have been divided by 3,200 lbs and then multiplied by 2,400 lbs to get an equivalent power to weight number that can be directly compared to the Cobra.  The HP and Torque numbers have also been corrected from Net to Gross to allow for comparison.

We first need to have a short discussion on Torque and HP.  The measure of actual force available to accelerate the car is Torque.  HP is Torque multiplied by RPMs and is just a mathematical construct.  The HP number was developed to take into account the fact that if one engine was making 300 ft/lbs of torque at 3,000 RPM and another was making 300 ft/lbs of torque at 6,000 RPM, the 6,000 RPM engine could be geared down 2 to1 compared to the 3,000 RPM engine and the double gearing would produce an output of twice the torque.  However, if both engines are geared the same, the actual force produced would be the same even though the HP figure for one would be twice the HP of the other.

Remember:  Torque is the actual force we are working with, the HP number only indicates how high in RPM the engine is able to hold its torque as it revs out.

OK, now that we have that out of the way…

To begin with, Cobras, like all light high-powered cars, are traction limited.  You can easily build more motor than you can possibly hook up.  Therefore, we begin with finding how much torque the tires have the traction to handle.

I have done a number of surveys of cobra owners, and the numbers come out as follows.  (Note:  These numbers are approximate!  Differences in front to rear weight distribution, road surface and temperature, etc. will modify the actual values.  Consider these Ballpark numbers.  Also, these numbers are torque at the tires and not to be confused with engine torque).

15” Street Tires (Yokohama Avid S/T, etc.) --- 2,300 ft/lbs

17” Top Quality Street Tires (BFG g-Force, Goodyear GS-D3, etc.) --- 2,800 ft/lbs

I do not have sufficient information to accurately predict the numbers for Drag Radials or DOT Race tires.  I would estimate them to be in the area of 3,100 ft/lbs, but that is just an estimation.

For a car driven on the street, the critical gear is second.  Second gear is good for 70 to 80 MPH in most cars, optimizing for higher speeds is unrealistic for street use since you will spend 99% of your time within that speed range.  For racing, optimizing for third gear would probably be better, so long as you don’t end up with so much torque in second that you spin the car off into the weeds every couple of laps because you can’t control it.

The formula for finding torque at the tires is very simple.  You take the flywheel torque for the engine, multiply it by the ring and pinion ratio, and then multiply that by the transmission ratio for the gear in question.

Example, a 347 making 420 ft/lbs of torque at the flywheel, with a 3.54 R&P and second gear in a TKO trans (1.89):

420 x 3.54 x 1.89 =  2,810 ft/lbs of torque at the tires.

Notes:

1 – This is the peak torque number, through most of the RPM band, the actual torque will be less.

2 – to estimate the torque of any street engine, use the following formulas.  (HP can vary tremendously, but torque remains in a very small range for all naturally aspirated engines.)  For factory engines with stock iron cylinder heads, multiply displacement by 1.1.  For engines with high performance aftermarket aluminum cylinder heads, multiply displacement by 1.2.

Here are some numbers for reference:

(Note:  These are all Gross HP and Torque ratings.  All production cars after 1973 were rated Net HP and Torque, which is the Gross number minus all losses from the exhaust system, intake system, and accessory drives.  A rough approximation of Gross HP and Torque can be obtained for newer engines by multiplying the Net number by 1.1).

Ford street engines with modern aluminum heads:

306 390 HP @ 6,000 370 ft/lb @ 4.800
331 410 HP @ 5,900 400 ft/lb @ 4,800
357 430 HP @ 5,800 430 ft/lb @ 4,700
383 450 HP @ 5,700 460 ft/lb @ 4,600
408  470 HP @ 5,600 490 ft/lb @ 4,500

Ford factory engines with stock heads:

289 Hi-Po 271 HP @ 5,800 314 ft/lb @ 3,400
289 Race 385 HP @ 6,750 340 ft/lb @
302 / 5.0L 280 HP @ 5,200 325 ft/lb @ 4,000
302 Boss 320 HP @ 5,800 330 ft/lb @ 4,300
351 Cleveland 300 HP @ 5,400 380 ft/lb @ 3,400
351 Boss 330 HP @ 370 ft/lb @ 4,000
390 4-bl 375 HP @ 6,000 427 ft/lb @ 3,400
390 3 x 2-bl 401 HP @ 6,000 430 ft/lb @ 3,500
428-CJ 360 HP @ 5,400  460 ft/lb @ 3,200
428-Shelby 390 HP @ 5,200 470 ft/lb @ 3,700
427 4-bl 410 HP @ 5,600 475 ft/lb @ 3,400
427 2 x 4-bl 425 HP @ 6,000 480 ft/lb @ 3,700
427 Race 480 HP @ 6,500 510 ft/lb @ 3,700

Next let’s look at transmission ratios.

Here are the ratios for both modern and historical transmissions.

Transmission Gear Ratios
  1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
T5 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68
T5 (non-standard) 2.95 1.99 1.33 1.00 .068
TKO 600 2.87 1.89 1.28 1.00 0.82
Toploader WR 2.78 1.93 1.36 1.00 --
BorgWarner WR T-10 2.56 1.91 1.48 1.00 --
Muncie M20 2.52 1.88 1.46 1.00 --
Toploader CR 2.32 1.69 1.29 1.00 --
Borg Warner CR T-10 2.20 1.66 1.31 1.00 --
Muncie M21 2.20 1.64 1.28 1.00 --
C4 / C6 2.46 1.46 1.00 -- --

We now have sufficient information to make a selection.

As I stated before:

The formula for finding torque at the tires is very simple.  You take the flywheel torque for the engine, multiply it by the ring and pinion ratio, and then multiply that by the transmission ratio for the gear in question.

Example, a 331 making 400 ft/lbs of torque at the flywheel, with a 3.54 R&P and second gear in a TKO trans (1.89):

400 x 3.54 x 1.89 =  2,676 ft/lbs of torque at the tires.

(If you are using larger tires, like 275/60-15, you would need to multiply the final number by .957 (26.7 divided by 27.9) to correct for the larger diameter tires.)

Here are some examples of actual numbers:

Note:  There are gear ratio numbers in parenthesis for the original cars and the CR Toploader examples.  The original cars used tires that were about 27.75” diameter and that had the effect of changing the effective gear ratio to that shown in parenthesis.  If you are using a 275/60-15 rear tire, these would be correct.  If you are using a 295/50-15 or similar modern size tires, the numbers shown for the T5 and TKO would be correct:

The first column is the first gear ratio.  Second column is the second gear ratio.  Third column is the HP (Remember these numbers are corrected to a 2,400 lb equivalent weight).  The next three columns are the speed in first, second, and top gear @ 6,000 RPMs.  The last column is the RPMs @ 60 MPH.

Original Cobras:               2.32             1.69            HP            1st        2nd      4th       @ 60

289 @ 3.73 (3.65):          2,950           2,150          300           55        75        127      2,850

289 FIA @ 3.73:             3,150           2,300          420           64        88        148      2,850

390 @ 3.54 (3.41):          3,350           2,450          400           59        81        137      2,650

427 @ 3.54 (3.41):          3,550           2,600          400           59        81        137      2,650

427 Comp @ 3.54:          3,900           2,850          465           64        88        148      2,650

CR Toploader:                 2.32             1.69            HP            1st        2nd      4th       @ 60

306 @ 3.54 (3.39):          2,900           2,100          390           59        81        138      2,650

331 @ 3.54 (3.39):          3,150           2,300          410           59        81        138      2,650

357 @ 3.54 (3.39):          3,400           2,450          430           59        81        138      2,650

383 @ 3.54 (3.39):          3,600           2,650          450           59        81        138      2,650

408 @ 3.54 (3.39):          3,850           2,800          470           59        81        138      2,650

T5:                               3.35                 1.94             HP           1st        2nd      5th       @ 60

306 @ 3.27:                 4,050               2,350          390           42        72        219      1,650

306 @ 3.54:                 4,400               2,550          390           39        66        201      1,800

306 @ 3.73:                 4,650               2,700          390           37        63        192      1,900

TKO:                           2.87                 1.89             HP           1st        2nd      5th       @ 60

347 @ 3.27:                 3,900               2,600          420           49        74        171      2,150

347 @ 3.54:                 4,250               2,800          420           45        68        158      2,300

347 @ 3.73:                 4,500               2,950          420           43        65        150      2,400

393 @ 3.54:                 4,800               3,150          460           45        68        158      2,300

Historical:                     1st                    2nd              HP           1st        2nd      4th       @ 60

LS-6 Chevelle:

WR @ 3.54:                3,000               2,250          300           50        68        129      2,800

WR @ 3.73:                3,150               2,350          300           48        65        123      2,950

WR @ 3.91:                3,300               2,450          300           46        62        117      3,100

66 427 Vette:  

CR @ 3.54:                 2,900               2,150          350           59        78        129      2,800

WR @ 3.54:                3,350               2,450          350           50        68        129      2,800

65 327 Vette:

WR @ 3.54:                2,650               1,950          280           50        68        129      2,800

65 4.2 XKE:                3,000               1,650          250           43        74        129      2,800

Modern Cars:               1st                    2nd             HP            1st        2nd

Z06:                             3,600               2,400          430           61        91

Viper:                           3,400               2,300          410           59        88

Ford GT:                      3,500               2,300          430           61        93

C-6:                             3,400               2,400          340           50        72

Ferrari 612:                  3,450               2,400          350           48        69

BMW Z4 M:                3,350               1,950          280           38        66

Mustang GT:                2,900               1,750          235           39        65

BMW Z4:                    2,500               1,450          215           36        63

For the modern cars, note how closely the torque numbers are grouped for the higher HP cars.  This is what the engineers at the auto companies have found is the optimum.  Because Cobras are much lighter and use proportionally much wider tires for their weight, they can make slightly higher values work.

One of the main reasons the original cars worked was the close ratio toploader transmission that reduced the torque to manageable levels in first and second gear.  In our examples, you can see that a 306 with a T5 and 3.54 R&P is making 4,400 ft/lbs of torque in first gear compared to an original car with a 427 and 3.54 R&P that made 3,350 ft/lbs.  In second gear they are nearly the same at 2,550 ft/lbs and 2,600 ft/lbs respectively.

Where this is made up is in the speed the car reaches in each gear.  The T5 car only reaches 39 MPH @ 6,000 RPM in first gear, where the Toploader car reaches 59 MPH @ 6,000 RPM.

Since the T5 car can’t possibly hook up 4,400 ft/lbs of torque, it is no faster up to 39 MPH than the Toploader car, but from 39 to 59 MPH the toploader car is still in first and making it’s full 3,350 ft/lbs to the T5 cars’ 2,600 ft/lbs in second gear.

Once you know what type of tires you will be using, and therefore the maximum torque you can hook up, you can run the numbers with different engine sizes, transmissions, and ring & pinion ratios to find the combination that gives you the desired level of torque in second (or for racing, third) gear.  This will give you a non-guesswork method for optimizing your car to fit its intended use.

Kevin McGowen

April 05, 2007

 

 

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