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Brakes - Part 2

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Question: Is it a must to have a proportioning valve when using a manual 84 mustang master cylinder and rear disc brakes?

Comments:

[IL] "If you are running discs in the rear you don't need and valve. But I recommend the Wilwood adjustable inline valve in the rear line so you can change the brake bias."

[DW] "I'm running 4-wheel discs with the 84 m/c. I haven't found any need for the proportioning valve. If you have cut your pedal, you will find a little more pedal travel than you would like to have, but other than that, no problems."

[pp] "I could really be wrong on this but don't you need some residual pressure in the lines of like 3-4lbs on the rear discs so they react positively like the front discs???"

[EG] "There are two lines of thought. 1994 Cobra from a 4wd system. Others seem to be having good luck with the 84 Jeep from a 2wd system.
The jeep is cheaper at about $20.00 rebuilt vs $85 for a new bendix 94 cobra unit.

Personally I bought the cobra unit. Do not have it installed yet. Wayne swears by it. Inman and others swear by the jeep. They are both 15/16 bore."

[SC] "Should I not shorten my brake pedal if I use the 84 mustang master cylinder?"

[EG] "about 90% of all I ever read on the brake subject says to shorten your brake pedal regardless of what other setup you have. A few folks have reported that they had good brakes with out it. I don't actually ever remember someone saying their brakes were too sensitive."

[AL] "I remember reading somewhere that residual valves were only needed if your MC was below any of your brake lines. But I could be wrong.

I have disc all around a 84 MC with a adjustable prop valve in the rear line. In my case I found more bias to the rears helped then without it.

I'm told if you do a lot of racing on different tracks it helps to be able to change to the varying conditions track to track."

[Wade] "If you run power brakes, such as with the hydrobooster, you do not need to modify the brake pedal."

[SC] "I just got back from the junk yard. will a master cylinder off a 87 jeep work. I got a very clean aluminum master cylinder for almost nothing. it looks like it will bolt right up but will this master cylinder not have the right size bore?"

[EG] "The 84 jeep unit we have talked of so many times is a huge, iron, ugly thing. And, it has the connections on the correct side. If yours is pretty and aluminum, you do not have the one. Will yours work?? what is the bore size? What is the stroke and are the connections on the correct side??"

[SC] "It looks just like the 84 mustang cylinder but its aluminum and a little bigger. The connections ARE on the right side."

[EG] "I just checked and this 87 jeep master cylinder is 15/16" and has the brake lines on the correct side. Its a good bit bigger than the 84 mustang master cylinder but its made of aluminum so its about the same weight. Now I just have to make myself remove the master cylinder that's on the car now. I just hate getting that brake fluid ever were, and bleeding that brakes."

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